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Question About Free File Transfering Apps
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Carter Zhang
2024-05-29 14:10:01 UTC
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Are there any free apps for GNU/Linux and Android to share files over LAN? There have already been LocalSend, LanXchange, LANDrop, NitroShare, Sharik, Warpinator, TrebleShot, but they have respective problems.
Dan Ritter
2024-05-29 14:40:01 UTC
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Post by Carter Zhang
Are there any free apps for GNU/Linux and Android to share files over LAN? There have already been LocalSend, LanXchange, LANDrop, NitroShare, Sharik, Warpinator, TrebleShot, but they have respective problems.
On the Debian side, options include:

- SFTP and SCP via SSH
- SMB via samba
- NFS v3 and v4
- various DAV implementations
- SyncThing
- and, although the server is not currently packaged, NextCloud
is reasonably easy to get up and running on Debian stable.

All of these have clients of various kinds on Android and other
systems.

-dsr-
e***@gmx.us
2024-05-31 03:00:01 UTC
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Dear Dan,
Thanks a lot for your reply but I am not clear how to use SFTP, SCP or
NFS on Android. Could you please show me how? Any help will be
appreciated.
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SFTP / SCP:

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NFS: it's not simple.

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e***@gmx.us
2024-05-29 14:40:01 UTC
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Post by Carter Zhang
Are there any free apps for GNU/Linux and Android to share files over LAN? There have already been LocalSend, LanXchange, LANDrop, NitroShare, Sharik, Warpinator, TrebleShot, but they have respective problems.
scp / sshd
nc, but you don't get authentication _or_ encryption

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Hans
2024-05-29 14:50:01 UTC
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rsync - which is biderectional and uses checksums for correct transfer.

Best

Hans
Curt
2024-05-29 15:00:01 UTC
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Post by Carter Zhang
Are there any free apps for GNU/Linux and Android to share files over LAN?
There have already been LocalSend, LanXchange, LANDrop, NitroShare, Sharik
Warpinator, TrebleShot, but they have respective problems=2E
I just go to https://pairdrop.net/ on the both devices on the land for
the occasional file transfer.

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Post by Carter Zhang
Are there any free apps for GNU/Linux and Android to share files over
LAN?
There have already been LocalSend, LanXchange, LANDrop, NitroShare,
Sharik
Warpinator, TrebleShot, but they have respective problems=2E
I travel to https://pairdrop.net/ on both devices on the LAN for
the occasional file transfer. There is an Android app, although you
don't need one (merely a browser).

https://github.com/schlagmichdoch/pairdrop/blob/master/docs/faq.md
Monte Milanuk
2024-05-29 20:10:02 UTC
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Post by Curt
I travel to https://pairdrop.net/ on both devices on the LAN for
the occasional file transfer. There is an Android app, although you
don't need one (merely a browser).
Thanks for that... I may have to set that up with my wife's iPhone. 
Getting her to use SyncThing - or any app outside the Apple ecosystem -
has been a struggle.  This should make it easier for us to share the
occasional photo or video!
Richard
2024-05-29 15:00:01 UTC
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KDE connect? That has clients for many systems.

But the question is, what's the issue with the existing solutions? It's
quite a useless task to recommend file transfer apps when they all have the
same issue you try to avoid.

Richard
Carter Zhang
2024-05-31 03:00:01 UTC
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Dear Richard,

Thank you for your reply. LocalSend, LanXchange, LANDrop, NitroShare, Sharik, Warpinator, TrebleShot have their respective problems.

LocalSend is not available in Debian's and Trisquel's official repositories, and it is not so convenient to complie it from source using a machine with a memory of 8GB.

LanXchange is not available in Debian's and Trisquel's official repositories, source as well, and its source complication on my machine fails.

The Android client for LANDrop is not libre.

NitroShare, Sharik, Warpinator and TrebleShot are all no longer updated and the latest version of them cannot be complied on modern GNU/Linux environment.

In addition, KDE Connect sometimes disconnects and cannot reconnect.

Yours,
Carter
Post by Richard
KDE connect? That has clients for many systems.
But the question is, what's the issue with the existing solutions? It's
quite a useless task to recommend file transfer apps when they all have the
same issue you try to avoid.
Richard
Charles Curley
2024-05-29 16:50:02 UTC
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On Wed, 29 May 2024 22:07:17 +0800
Post by Carter Zhang
but they have respective problems.
We can't advise you very well if we don't know what you think their
respective problems are.

A more important question: What problem would you like to solve?
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Monte Milanuk
2024-05-29 17:40:02 UTC
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SyncThing
Post by Carter Zhang
Are there any free apps for GNU/Linux and Android to share files over
LAN? There have already been LocalSend, LanXchange, LANDrop,
NitroShare, Sharik, Warpinator, TrebleShot, but they have respective
problems.
gene heskett
2024-05-30 03:10:01 UTC
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Post by Dan Ritter
SyncThing
Post by Carter Zhang
Are there any free apps for GNU/Linux and Android to share files over
LAN? There have already been LocalSend, LanXchange, LANDrop,
NitroShare, Sharik, Warpinator, TrebleShot, but they have respective
problems.
So does sshfs, but its free, and it just works. I regularly move <1 to
60 gigabyte gcode files to my printers with it. The occasional 30 to 60
gigger gets moved to a pi clone over cat5-6 in 2 to 4 seconds. I don't
know why folks think they have to have an ap for something so simple as
moving a file. sshfs mounts the target device as if its a storage disk.
But since its ssh based, its also encrypted, making it relatively safe
from wifi snoopers. rsync operates much the same but uses checksums to
verify the copy is verbatum.

Cheers, Gene Heskett, CET.
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Andy Smith
2024-05-29 21:10:01 UTC
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Hi,
Post by Carter Zhang
Are there any free apps for GNU/Linux and Android to share files
over LAN? There have already been LocalSend, LanXchange, LANDrop,
NitroShare, Sharik, Warpinator, TrebleShot, but they have
respective problems.
Your post is woefully short of details.

Which of the above did you like best, despite it not being
sufficient? What was deficient about it?

No one can easily answer your question without knowing what your
requirements are and what problems you faced with the above
solutions.

Depending on what your needs are, the answer is possibly, "not that
we know of."

Thanks,
Andy
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Anssi Saari
2024-05-30 09:10:01 UTC
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Post by Carter Zhang
Are there any free apps for GNU/Linux and Android to share files over LAN? There have already been LocalSend, LanXchange,
LANDrop, NitroShare, Sharik, Warpinator, TrebleShot, but they have respective problems.
I'd like to know too, assuming you're asking for transferring files
between Android and Linux.

I'd like Quick Share support in Linux as it's built into Android and
available for Windows. Someone has an early version at
https://github.com/Martichou/rquickshare but I only got it working one
way, Linux PC to phone and even that needed disabling the firewall on
the PC. But maybe that'll improve.
Richard
2024-05-30 09:20:01 UTC
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There have already been many answers. And since it's highly unlikely any
third party will include support for such a closed down system, you might
want to look at them. At least I don't think Google will suddenly open
source Nearby Share for everyone to write clients for it.

Am Do., 30. Mai 2024 um 11:00 Uhr schrieb Anssi Saari <
Post by Anssi Saari
I'd like to know too, assuming you're asking for transferring files
between Android and Linux.
I'd like Quick Share support in Linux as it's built into Android and
available for Windows. Someone has an early version at
https://github.com/Martichou/rquickshare but I only got it working one
way, Linux PC to phone and even that needed disabling the firewall on
the PC. But maybe that'll improve.
Anssi Saari
2024-05-30 12:30:01 UTC
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There have already been many answers. And since it's highly unlikely any third party will include support for such a
closed down system, you might want to look at them. At least I don't think Google will suddenly open source Nearby Share
for everyone to write clients for it.
Wow. I already mentioned an open source client? What's your point?
Richard
2024-05-30 12:40:01 UTC
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A client that by your own words barely works, while fully functional
alternatives have been available for many years already. So what's your
point?

Am Do., 30. Mai 2024 um 14:23 Uhr schrieb Anssi Saari <
Post by Anssi Saari
Wow. I already mentioned an open source client? What's your point?
e***@gmx.us
2024-05-31 00:40:01 UTC
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Post by Carter Zhang
Are there any free apps for GNU/Linux and Android to share files over
LAN? There have already been LocalSend, LanXchange, LANDrop,
NitroShare, Sharik, Warpinator, TrebleShot, but they have respective
problems.
 I don't know if sshfs would have issues with more than one connection.
You mean two different machines using sshfs to the same server? I don't see
why it would. It's vanilla SSH to the outside world and ssh works just fine
when multiple users log in.

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gene heskett
2024-05-31 13:00:01 UTC
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Post by Carter Zhang
Are there any free apps for GNU/Linux and Android to share files over
LAN? There have already been LocalSend, LanXchange, LANDrop,
NitroShare, Sharik, Warpinator, TrebleShot, but they have respective
problems.
 I don't know if sshfs would have issues with more than one connection.
mick
It does not, I have open sessions to 6 other machines here,
possability's of up to 10 if all are turned on.
.
Cheers, Gene Heskett, CET.
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Greg Wooledge
2024-05-31 13:20:02 UTC
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Post by Carter Zhang
Are there any free apps for GNU/Linux and Android to share files over
LAN? There have already been LocalSend, LanXchange, LANDrop,
NitroShare, Sharik, Warpinator, TrebleShot, but they have respective
problems.
 I don't know if sshfs would have issues with more than one connection.
mick
It does not, I have open sessions to 6 other machines here, possability's of
up to 10 if all are turned on.
.
I interpreted mick's sentence to mean multiple connections between the
same two computers, or perhaps multiple clients all connecting to a
single server. A single client connecting to multiple servers was never
in question, at least in my mind.
t***@tuxteam.de
2024-05-31 16:50:01 UTC
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On Fri, May 31, 2024 at 05:30:19PM +0100, mick.crane wrote:

[...]
I only drag stuff in and out of the directory in Thunar. Dragging from the
directory takes a copy. I wondered what would happen if somebody deleted a
file while you were half way through fetching it.
This will depend on the precise values you assign to "you" and "fetch". And,
of course to "delete".

Cheers
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t
Greg Wooledge
2024-05-31 17:20:01 UTC
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I only drag stuff in and out of the directory in Thunar. Dragging from the
directory takes a copy. I wondered what would happen if somebody deleted a
file while you were half way through fetching it.
If you're copying a file, that means some process has the file opened.

Removing (unlinking) a file that's opened causes it to vanish from the
raw directory, but the inode and the blocks of data are left alone until
all processes have closed it. Only then will it be marked for recyling.

You'll just have to hope that the (remote) copy succeeds on the first
try, because once the remote reader loses connection, if the file is
closed on the server, it's gone.
t***@tuxteam.de
2024-05-31 18:00:01 UTC
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Post by Greg Wooledge
I only drag stuff in and out of the directory in Thunar. Dragging from the
directory takes a copy. I wondered what would happen if somebody deleted a
file while you were half way through fetching it.
If you're copying a file, that means some process has the file opened.
(that's what I meant with "the meaning of fetch". Is it the drag
process by the user? Then the file is not yet open -- and nothing
will be copied. Is it the actual copy? Then your description is
the most accurate one)
Post by Greg Wooledge
Removing (unlinking) a file that's opened causes it to vanish from the
raw directory, but the inode and the blocks of data are left alone until
all processes have closed it. Only then will it be marked for recyling.
You'll just have to hope that the (remote) copy succeeds on the first
try, because once the remote reader loses connection, if the file is
closed on the server, it's gone.
Cheers
--
t
David Wright
2024-06-01 02:40:01 UTC
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Post by gene heskett
Post by Carter Zhang
Are there any free apps for GNU/Linux and Android to share files over
LAN? There have already been LocalSend, LanXchange, LANDrop,
NitroShare, Sharik, Warpinator, TrebleShot, but they have respective
problems.
 I don't know if sshfs would have issues with more than one connection.
It does not, I have open sessions to 6 other machines here,
possability's of up to 10 if all are turned on.
AFAICT from your posts Gene, you are the sole user on your LAN,
so "sharing files" takes on a particular meaning.
I only drag stuff in and out of the directory in Thunar. Dragging from
the directory takes a copy. I wondered what would happen if somebody
deleted a file while you were half way through fetching it.
AIUI you get a race. So unless you elaborate on who the potential
agents are on your LAN (spouse, kids, kids mates), I don't think
sshfs would be an appropriate choice, and neither does an author
of the wikipedia page:

"SSHFS is an alternative to those protocols [A(pple)FP, NFS, SMB]
only in situations where users are confident that files and
directories will not be targeted for writing by another user,
at the same time."

Cheers,
David.
gene heskett
2024-06-01 09:30:02 UTC
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Post by David Wright
Post by gene heskett
Post by Carter Zhang
Are there any free apps for GNU/Linux and Android to share files over
LAN? There have already been LocalSend, LanXchange, LANDrop,
NitroShare, Sharik, Warpinator, TrebleShot, but they have respective
problems.
 I don't know if sshfs would have issues with more than one connection.
It does not, I have open sessions to 6 other machines here,
possability's of up to 10 if all are turned on.
AFAICT from your posts Gene, you are the sole user on your LAN,
so "sharing files" takes on a particular meaning.
I only drag stuff in and out of the directory in Thunar. Dragging from
the directory takes a copy. I wondered what would happen if somebody
deleted a file while you were half way through fetching it.
AIUI you get a race. So unless you elaborate on who the potential
agents are on your LAN (spouse, kids, kids mates), I don't think
sshfs would be an appropriate choice, and neither does an author
"SSHFS is an alternative to those protocols [A(pple)FP, NFS, SMB]
only in situations where users are confident that files and
directories will not be targeted for writing by another user,
at the same time."
Well, since I'm alone, my wife passed 3.5 years back, and was not
computer literate, its my show. And sshfs Just Works. I use this machine
as the src for my output for some 3d printers, although the 4 linuxcnc
machines are largely standalone in that the gcode I run on them was all
written by me on that machine.. I often have more than one login session
to a given machine because that machine may also be its own buildbot.
Every machine has access to the world, but its all hidden behind a
dd-wrt running router doing the NAT. I don't have to fight with
samba/cifs and its daily updates to keep it working, permissions are
100% linux, nor do I fool with nfs and its weekly updates that always
break it.

But age is playing a role too, I have short term memory problems.
Perhaps because of my age, I'll be 90 in October if I don't fall over first.

The only dis to ssh and friends has been the local key files and keeping
them up to date. That's very minor, its probably been a year since a new
install on one of my pi clones had me hunting down an aging key file.
Nothing like this broken bookworm install, its far more annoyance than
any of the other problems. I'll miss morning roll call, and disappear
soon enough and then it will be a bit more peaceful here.

In the meantime, everybody take care and stay well. You are my
connection to the rest of the world.
Post by David Wright
Cheers,
David.
Cheers, Gene Heskett, CET.
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- Louis D. Brandeis
Michael Grant
2024-06-01 10:10:02 UTC
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I use sshfs, works great to let me drop files on my server from my
desktop. But I wouldn't call that "file sharing". I probably would call
that a "network disk" or "remote mount".

There's probably some formal definition out there, but when I think of
file sharing, I think of someone proffering up a single file (or folder)
and sharing it point-to-point with one or some small group of people.

I have long been plagued by the problem if sitting in a room or on a
boat with someone, 2 devices right next to one another, and no trivially
easy way to send a file from one device to the other without say first
uploading it to some mutual third party (e.g. whatsapp).

sshfs isn't going to let you share files between say 2 phones, at least,
not very easily if at all.

By recommendation further up in this thread, I tried Google's Quick
Share between my wife's phone and my phone. Followed all the
instructions, did not work. Followed all the troubleshooting
instructions. Nope, my device doesn't appear on her phone when I share,
and neither the other way around. Searched the web, found a ton of
people with same issue. It's DoA I'm afraid.

Between family members, we have in the past shared files using a
synology box and their Drive app. It works just like Dropbox except
file is on your own infra. It's not open source though and I don't know
how tied it actually is to Synology's infra. One certainly needs to be
on the net to use it.

To this day, I have yet ever to see an easy way to share a file between
2 devices without full internet connectivity, except by say getting one
to run an ftp or ssh server and ftp or ssh'ing over the file between
local ip addrs (e.g. 192.168.x.y). I'd love to know some well know
good, not-evil, open source app that runs on all the platforms that I
could tell people to install to send them a file without using the
internet. I can't really see any technical reason such an thing
couldn't work, say over bluetooth or local IPs and maybe it does exist,
I've just never run across such a thing. The key word here is EASY. I
can't be hacking someone's phone for an hour just to transfer them a
file.

Michael Grant
Dan Ritter
2024-06-01 11:10:01 UTC
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I have long been plagued by the problem if sitting in a room or on a boat
with someone, 2 devices right next to one another, and no trivially easy way
to send a file from one device to the other without say first uploading it
to some mutual third party (e.g. whatsapp).
...
To this day, I have yet ever to see an easy way to share a file between 2
devices without full internet connectivity, except by say getting one to run
an ftp or ssh server and ftp or ssh'ing over the file between local ip addrs
(e.g. 192.168.x.y). I'd love to know some well know good, not-evil, open
source app that runs on all the platforms that I could tell people to
install to send them a file without using the internet. I can't really see
any technical reason such an thing couldn't work, say over bluetooth or
local IPs and maybe it does exist, I've just never run across such a thing.
The key word here is EASY. I can't be hacking someone's phone for an hour
just to transfer them a file.
The web browser technology called WebRTC does that quite well,
but for security reasons -- nobody wants a self-perpetuating
worm -- you need an intermediary device to introduce the two
participants but not to actually transfer the file.

And so there is snapdrop.net, which you can choose to trust or
you can run your own copy -- it's GPL3. Works between any two
devices that run modern web browsers, including iPhones,
Androids, Linux, Windows, Macs...

There are bluetooth solutions between Linux and Android and
Windows, but Apple does not allow bluetooth file transfer from
or to IOS with any operating systems they don't control.

-dsr-
Michael Grant
2024-06-01 21:10:01 UTC
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Post by Dan Ritter
The web browser technology called WebRTC does that quite well,
but for security reasons -- nobody wants a self-perpetuating
worm -- you need an intermediary device to introduce the two
participants but not to actually transfer the file.
And so there is snapdrop.net, which you can choose to trust or
you can run your own copy -- it's GPL3. Works between any two
devices that run modern web browsers, including iPhones,
Androids, Linux, Windows, Macs...
Cool, I played with this today. So it seems like the website is called
'pairdrop.net' that works by default with the android app.

Bit of a shame that it requires an external introducer site. I read a
bunch of sites, nothing seems to explicitly say that the file transfer
is direct between one and the other and not through some sort of "bent
pipe". I'll tcpdump it at some point to convince myself.

I did not set up my own server (yet), though I read through the
instructions. Seems to be nodejs based and looks like a manual setup.
I guess nobody has built a debian package yet...
Post by Dan Ritter
There are bluetooth solutions between Linux and Android and
Windows, but Apple does not allow bluetooth file transfer from
or to IOS with any operating systems they don't control.
Did some research how to do this over bluetooth, apparently most android
phones, certainly newer ones, you can pair the two phones and then use
the share feature of one phone and choose bluetooth and share it. Built
into the OS. Apparently works between phones and Windows. No internet
connection required, perfect. Doesn't work between ios as you say.
Learn something new every day!

Thanks for that!

Michael Grant

songbird
2024-06-01 12:10:01 UTC
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Michael Grant wrote:
...
Post by Michael Grant
I have long been plagued by the problem if sitting in a room or on a
boat with someone, 2 devices right next to one another, and no trivially
easy way to send a file from one device to the other without say first
uploading it to some mutual third party (e.g. whatsapp).
USB stick or in the elder days i could wire up a
RS232 cable and use that via serial ports.


...
Post by Michael Grant
To this day, I have yet ever to see an easy way to share a file between
2 devices without full internet connectivity, except by say getting one
to run an ftp or ssh server and ftp or ssh'ing over the file between
local ip addrs (e.g. 192.168.x.y). I'd love to know some well know
good, not-evil, open source app that runs on all the platforms that I
could tell people to install to send them a file without using the
internet. I can't really see any technical reason such an thing
couldn't work, say over bluetooth or local IPs and maybe it does exist,
I've just never run across such a thing. The key word here is EASY. I
can't be hacking someone's phone for an hour just to transfer them a
file.
if i'm taking that long to do something, i'll just find
an easier method.

for me sending an e-mail with the file attached
might also do it.


songbird
Joe
2024-06-01 14:10:01 UTC
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On Sat, 01 Jun 2024 10:06:43 +0000
Post by Michael Grant
To this day, I have yet ever to see an easy way to share a file
between 2 devices without full internet connectivity, except by say
getting one to run an ftp or ssh server and ftp or ssh'ing over the
file between local ip addrs (e.g. 192.168.x.y). I'd love to know
some well know good, not-evil, open source app that runs on all the
platforms that I could tell people to install to send them a file
without using the internet. I can't really see any technical reason
such an thing couldn't work, say over bluetooth or local IPs and
maybe it does exist, I've just never run across such a thing. The
key word here is EASY. I can't be hacking someone's phone for an
hour just to transfer them a file.
Michael Grant
a. I know nothing about iOS
b. I don't know if this will help

I have an Android phone. If I plug its micro USB charge/data connection
into my desktop's USB port, two entries appear on 'Device' in Thunar.
Pictures (only) can be transferred.

If I pull down the Android status menu and select the USB entry, then
tap for more options, then select file transfer. one of the Device
entries disappears and the other shows various directories. Files
of other kinds can be transferred to and from my workstation's
directories by copy and paste, and presumably by drag and drop. No
additional software is required on the phone.

Two Android devices plugged into something portable, such as a netbook
or Raspberry Pi could presumably transfer files fairly easily. I've
never needed to do it, so I haven't actually tried it between mobiles,
but I use one phone this way to transfer files to and from my network,
which is quicker than emailing them. I don't know what the earliest
version of Android with this ability is. Update: Google says Android 9.
There is a Mac app to do it, Windows and Linux machines including
Chromebook do it natively.

Maybe more ideas here:
https://www.grover.com/blog/en/7-ways-android-data-transfer
https://support.apple.com/en-gb/guide/iphone/iph3ea029318/17.0/ios/17.0
--
Joe
gene heskett
2024-06-01 20:30:01 UTC
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Post by Michael Grant
I use sshfs, works great to let me drop files on my server from my
desktop. But I wouldn't call that "file sharing".  I probably would call
that a "network disk" or "remote mount".
There's probably some formal definition out there, but when I think of
file sharing, I think of someone proffering up a single file (or folder)
and sharing it point-to-point with one or some small group of people.
I have long been plagued by the problem if sitting in a room or on a
boat with someone, 2 devices right next to one another, and no trivially
easy way to send a file from one device to the other without say first
uploading it to some mutual third party (e.g. whatsapp).
sshfs isn't going to let you share files between say 2 phones, at least,
not very easily if at all.
By recommendation further up in this thread, I tried Google's Quick
Share between my wife's phone and my phone.  Followed all the
instructions, did not work.  Followed all the troubleshooting
instructions.  Nope, my device doesn't appear on her phone when I share,
and neither the other way around.  Searched the web, found a ton of
people with same issue.  It's DoA I'm afraid.
Between family members, we have in the past shared files using a
synology box and their Drive app.  It works just like Dropbox except
file is on your own infra.  It's not open source though and I don't know
how tied it actually is to Synology's infra.  One certainly needs to be
on the net to use it.
To this day, I have yet ever to see an easy way to share a file between
2 devices without full internet connectivity, except by say getting one
to run an ftp or ssh server and ftp or ssh'ing over the file between
local ip addrs (e.g. 192.168.x.y).  I'd love to know some well know
good, not-evil, open source app that runs on all the platforms that I
could tell people to install to send them a file without using the
internet.  I can't really see any technical reason such an thing
couldn't work, say over bluetooth or local IPs and maybe it does exist,
I've just never run across such a thing.  The key word here is EASY.  I
can't be hacking someone's phone for an hour just to transfer them a file.
Michael Grant
The keyword with a "phone" as you refer to that handheld computer, is
locked in service. Just one of the reasons I only have an expired
wallmart flip phone that hasn't been renewed in 4 or 5 years. If I'm
going on a long trip where a vehicle problem might need a fone to yell
for help, I'll go see what wally has today. Until then its a nuisance,
with every scammer on the planet calling you up at dinner time or in the
middle of taking care of your horizontal homework. Amazons BIG red
button has blocked 255 such scammers so far.
Post by Michael Grant
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Cheers, Gene Heskett, CET.
--
"There are four boxes to be used in defense of liberty:
soap, ballot, jury, and ammo. Please use in that order."
-Ed Howdershelt (Author, 1940)
If we desire respect for the law, we must first make the law respectable.
- Louis D. Brandeis
Larry Martell
2024-06-01 20:40:01 UTC
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Post by gene heskett
Well, since I'm alone, my wife passed 3.5 years back, and was not
computer literate, its my show. And sshfs Just Works. I use this machine
as the src for my output for some 3d printers, although the 4 linuxcnc
machines are largely standalone in that the gcode I run on them was all
written by me on that machine.. I often have more than one login session
to a given machine because that machine may also be its own buildbot.
Every machine has access to the world, but its all hidden behind a
dd-wrt running router doing the NAT. I don't have to fight with
samba/cifs and its daily updates to keep it working, permissions are
100% linux, nor do I fool with nfs and its weekly updates that always
break it.
But age is playing a role too, I have short term memory problems.
Perhaps because of my age, I'll be 90 in October if I don't fall over first.
The only dis to ssh and friends has been the local key files and keeping
them up to date. That's very minor, its probably been a year since a new
install on one of my pi clones had me hunting down an aging key file.
Nothing like this broken bookworm install, its far more annoyance than
any of the other problems. I'll miss morning roll call, and disappear
soon enough and then it will be a bit more peaceful here.
In the meantime, everybody take care and stay well. You are my
connection to the rest of the world.
Gene, you are an inspiration to me. I hope that I am half as lucid as
you when I am 90. But when you miss morning roll call how will we
know?
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