SGE (grid-engine-*) versus open grid scheduler

[francis picabia]

Maybe this isn't the best list to discuss grid cluster software,
but I'll see...

Oracle has discontinued the development of the open source Sun Grid Engine.
It is currently distributed in Debian 6 in packages beginning with
grid-engine-*

The open source fork continues as Open Grid Scheduler.

http://gridscheduler.sourceforge.net/

I can't tell what grid-engine-* packages are using for upstream
as it refers to SGE, something both upstream sources
have in common for package and current releases.

Is Debian basing grid-engine on the new open source project?
If so, I'd expect the grid-engine-* project might remain
around and it will eventually update to the more recent
releases from gridscheduler.

Alternately, the grid-engine used Oracle's SGE as the upstream
and this package will soon be EOL. If so, will there be a new
package based on Grid Scheduler?

[Camaleón]

Maybe this isn't the best list to discuss grid cluster software, but
I'll see...

JFYI, there is also:

http://lists.alioth.debian.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pkg-gridengine-devel

Oracle has discontinued the development of the open source Sun Grid Engine.

Was it...?

http://blogs.oracle.com/templedf/entry/oracle_grid_engine_changes_for

Oh, shame on you, Oracle >:-/

It is currently distributed in Debian 6 in packages beginning
with grid-engine-*

Here it is:

http://packages.qa.debian.org/g/gridengine.html

The open source fork continues as Open Grid Scheduler.
http://gridscheduler.sourceforge.net/
I can't tell what grid-engine-* packages are using for upstream as it
refers to SGE, something both upstream sources have in common for
package and current releases.

Mmm, Oracle's announcement was made on December 23th, 2010, that's almost
a year ago. And Open Grid Scheduler release version matches with Debian's
one (6.2u5). Moreover, getting into Debian gridengine sources, the copyright
points to Sun's license, so it makes sense to think that Debian is using
Open Grid Scheduler's sources :-?

Is Debian basing grid-engine on the new open source project? If so, I'd
expect the grid-engine-* project might remain around and it will
eventually update to the more recent releases from gridscheduler.

You can open a wishlist bug report against the package requesting an
upgrade to the latest available version and exposing your reasons for that.

Alternately, the grid-engine used Oracle's SGE as the upstream and this
package will soon be EOL. If so, will there be a new package based on
Grid Scheduler?

I think the current is already based on it, but that's just my
understanding, I would ask to the package maintainers :-)

Greetings,

[francis picabia]

Post by Camaleón

Maybe this isn't the best list to discuss grid cluster software, but
I'll see...

http://lists.alioth.debian.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pkg-gridengine-devel

Thank you for the response.

Very good to see this mailing list.
I saw a reference at one package site to that, but thought
perhaps it was for internal use only. It didn't appear on a list
of Debian mailing lists I saw. I'll join.

Post by Camaleón

Oracle has discontinued the development of the open source Sun Grid Engine.

Was it...?
http://blogs.oracle.com/templedf/entry/oracle_grid_engine_changes_for
Oh, shame on you, Oracle >:-/

Oracle is dumping everything open source which Sun had set up.
Solaris users are fleeing. We are paying about $1000/server
for software maintenance, necessary to get patches. Oracle
only wants a few fortune 500 customers and government
as customers.

Post by Camaleón

It is currently distributed in Debian 6 in packages beginning
with grid-engine-*

http://packages.qa.debian.org/g/gridengine.html

The open source fork continues as Open Grid Scheduler.
http://gridscheduler.sourceforge.net/
I can't tell what grid-engine-* packages are using for upstream as it
refers to SGE, something both upstream sources have in common for
package and current releases.

Mmm, Oracle's announcement was made on December 23th, 2010, that's almost
a year ago. And Open Grid Scheduler release version matches with Debian's
one (6.2u5). Moreover, getting into Debian gridengine sources, the copyright
points to Sun's license, so it makes sense to think that Debian is using
Open Grid Scheduler's sources :-?

I thought I saw that both Open Grid and SGE had releases of 6.2u5.
That is what caused me to wonder. The Debian package homepage
links to Oracle as the upstream, and files like
/usr/share/doc/gridengine-common/copyright
indicate Sun Microsystems is the upstream. But perhaps these
things are out of date. I'll soon found out hopefully.

[francis picabia]

Post by francis picabia

Post by Camaleón

Maybe this isn't the best list to discuss grid cluster software, but
I'll see...

http://lists.alioth.debian.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pkg-gridengine-devel

Thank you for the response.
Very good to see this mailing list.
I saw a reference at one package site to that, but thought
perhaps it was for internal use only.  It didn't appear on a list
of Debian mailing lists I saw.  I'll join.

I can confirm this mailing list is only for developers use. I've queried it
and Debian developers directly and they do not answer email.

It looks like the better list is "open source grid engine users",
which is outside of Debian.

http://gridengine.org/mailman/listinfo/users

It is a strange situation when Oracle makes their free grid engine commercial,
and another company (Univa) hires the bulk of Sun's former grid engine
developers,
again selling a commercial product. That leaves us with only the open source
alternative. But I can't find out what Debian is doing with its
package. I simply want
to adopt a solution with a path going into the future, what ever that
is. I don't
want the equivalent of deploying Sun/Oracle Java JDK from Debian
package and watch
it evaporate.