Gnome desktop environment

[Mark Fletcher]

I want to delete the Gnome desktop environment.
*What command is used for an elimination complete?*
I use this command but don't get the effect desired.
# apt-get install task-gnome-desktop

Well, to be fair, if you want to remove it, telling it to install it
probably isn’t likely to produce the desired effect

You could try using “remove” or “purge” instead but be ready for a lot of
applications that depend on Gnome (or at least on a desktop of some sort).
So the better approach may be to decide what you want to replace it with,
try to install that, and guide the package manager towards uninstalling
Gnome as it tries to sort out the mess that creates.

Mark

[Peter Ehlert]

I want to delete the Gnome desktop environment.
What command is used for an elimination complete?
I use this command but don't get the effect desired.
# apt-get install task-gnome-desktop
Well, to be fair, if you want to remove it, telling it to install it
probably isn’t likely to produce the desired effect

You could try using “remove” or “purge” instead but be ready for a lot of
applications that depend on Gnome (or at least on a desktop of some sort).
So the better approach may be to decide what you want to replace it with,
try to install that, and guide the package manager towards uninstalling
Gnome as it tries to sort out the mess that creates.

In my experience it's gonna be a real mess. Gnome is tenacious.
...if it doesn't give what you what you _really want_ I suggest a fresh
install with the desktop of choice
Be careful and don't include any Gnome/"Debian desktop".
Best of luck.

Mark

[Jeffrey Walton]

Post by Peter Ehlert

I want to delete the Gnome desktop environment.
What command is used for an elimination complete?
[...]

In my experience it's gonna be a real mess. Gnome is tenacious.
...if it doesn't give what you what you _really want_ I suggest a fresh install with the desktop of choice
Be careful and don't include any Gnome/"Debian desktop".
Best of luck.

Yes, this.

In fact, you might consider installing a Server edition of the OS, and
then adding a Desktop package.

There's not much difference between Desktop and Server editions.
Servers include things like a web server and ssh server, but lack an
integrated desktop. It's a lot easier to remove web servers and ssh
servers.

Jeff

[Jeremy Ardley]

Post by Peter Ehlert
Be careful and don't include any Gnome/"Debian desktop".

When you select a desktop install with standard Debian you don't have
lot of control over what is installed. And that's even with an advanced
install.

Personally I use only Mate but it's riddled with Gnome components that I
can't easily remove. For instance the Gnome NetworkManager widget is
installed despite me not using NetworkManager and I can't find a way to
remove it.

On other O/S you could (can?) generate a 'packing list' of all the
components you wanted to install and use that to build your system. I
expect Debian 11 has that ability but it's not something that is
immediately obvious.

[songbird]

Jeremy Ardley wrote:
...

Post by Jeremy Ardley
Personally I use only Mate but it's riddled with Gnome components that I
can't easily remove. For instance the Gnome NetworkManager widget is
installed despite me not using NetworkManager and I can't find a way to
remove it.
On other O/S you could (can?) generate a 'packing list' of all the
components you wanted to install and use that to build your system. I
expect Debian 11 has that ability but it's not something that is
immediately obvious.

somehow i've been running that way for quite some time on
MATE in testing but i may have not installed every bit of a
default installation or have removed things so it would go
away. some other things i also do not run because i find them
annoying. i'm sure i have some extras in here now that i do
not really use at all but...


here is my current mate- list from dpkg:

ii debian-mate-default-settings 1.26.0-1 all Default settings for MATE on Debian
ii libmate-desktop-2-17:amd64 1.26.0-1 amd64 Library with common API for various MATE modules (library)
ii libmate-menu2:amd64 1.26.0-3 amd64 implementation of the freedesktop menu specification for MATE (library)
ii libmate-panel-applet-4-1:amd64 1.27.0-1 amd64 library for MATE Panel applets
ii libmate-panel-applet-dev 1.27.0-1 amd64 library for MATE Panel applets (development files)
ii libmate-sensors-applet-plugin0 1.26.0-1 amd64 Library for plugins for the mate-sensors-applet package
ii libmate-slab0:amd64 1.26.0-2 amd64 beautification app library
ii libmate-window-settings1:amd64 1.26.0-2 amd64 utilities to configure the MATE desktop (window settings library)
ii mate-applets 1.26.1-1 amd64 Various applets for the MATE panel
ii mate-applets-common 1.26.1-1 all Various applets for the MATE panel (common files)
ii mate-backgrounds 1.26.0-1 all Set of backgrounds packaged with the MATE Desktop Environment
ii mate-calc 1.26.0-1 amd64 MATE desktop calculator
ii mate-calc-common 1.26.0-1 all MATE desktop calculator (common files)
ii mate-common 1.26.0-1 all common scripts and macros to develop with MATE
ii mate-control-center 1.26.0-2 amd64 utilities to configure the MATE desktop
ii mate-control-center-common 1.26.0-2 all utilities to configure the MATE desktop (common files)
ii mate-desktop 1.26.0-1 amd64 Library with common API for various MATE modules
ii mate-desktop-common 1.26.0-1 all Library with common API for various MATE modules (common files)
ii mate-desktop-environment 1.26.0+1 all MATE Desktop Environment (metapackage)
ii mate-desktop-environment-core 1.26.0+1 all MATE Desktop Environment (essential components, metapackage)
ii mate-icon-theme 1.26.0-1 all MATE Desktop icon theme
ii mate-indicator-applet 1.26.0-1 amd64 MATE panel indicator applet
ii mate-indicator-applet-common 1.26.0-1 all MATE panel indicator applet (common files)
ii mate-media 1.26.0-2 amd64 MATE media utilities
ii mate-media-common 1.26.0-2 all MATE media utilities (common files)
ii mate-menus 1.26.0-3 all implementation of the freedesktop menu specification for MATE
ii mate-notification-daemon 1.26.0-1 amd64 daemon to display passive popup notifications
ii mate-notification-daemon-common 1.26.0-1 all daemon to display passive popup notifications (common files)
ii mate-panel 1.27.0-1 amd64 launcher and docking facility for MATE
ii mate-panel-common 1.27.0-1 all launcher and docking facility for MATE (common files)
ii mate-polkit:amd64 1.26.1-1 amd64 MATE authentication agent for PolicyKit-1
ii mate-polkit-common 1.26.1-1 amd64 MATE authentication agent for PolicyKit-1 (common files)
ii mate-screensaver 1.26.1-1 amd64 MATE screen saver and locker
ii mate-screensaver-common 1.26.1-1 all MATE screen saver and locker (common files)
ii mate-sensors-applet 1.26.0-1 amd64 Display readings from hardware sensors in your MATE panel
ii mate-sensors-applet-common 1.26.0-1 all Display readings from hardware sensors in your MATE panel (common files)
ii mate-session-manager 1.26.0-1 amd64 Session manager of the MATE desktop environment
ii mate-settings-daemon 1.26.0-1 amd64 daemon handling the MATE session settings
ii mate-settings-daemon-common 1.26.0-1 all daemon handling the MATE session settings (common files)
ii mate-system-monitor 1.26.0-1 amd64 Process viewer and system resource monitor for MATE
ii mate-system-monitor-common 1.26.0-1 all Process viewer and system resource monitor for MATE (common files)
ii mate-terminal 1.26.0-1 amd64 MATE terminal emulator application
ii mate-terminal-common 1.26.0-1 all MATE terminal emulator application (common files)
ii mate-themes 3.22.23-1 all Official themes for the MATE desktop
ii mate-tweak 22.10.0-2 all MATE desktop tweak tool
ii mate-user-guide 1.26.0-1 all User documentation for MATE Desktop Environment
ii mate-utils 1.26.0-1 amd64 MATE desktop utilities
ii mate-utils-common 1.26.0-1 all MATE desktop utilities (common files)


use at your own discretion. :)


songbird

[Peter Ehlert]

Post by Jeremy Ardley

Post by Peter Ehlert
Be careful and don't include any Gnome/"Debian desktop".

When you select a desktop install with standard Debian you don't have
lot of control over what is installed. And that's even with an
advanced install.

I assume you are seeing a list of desktops to select from during the
install...

"standard Debian" (or whatever it's called) is kinda Gnome Lite.
it's automatically selected = uncheck that box!

Post by Jeremy Ardley
Personally I use only Mate but it's riddled with Gnome components that
I can't easily remove. For instance the Gnome NetworkManager widget is
installed despite me not using NetworkManager and I can't find a way
to remove it.

I too only use Mate.

to be fair Gnome creates a lot of Good packages that are used in almost
all desktop environments that are not actually the Gnome Desktop.
My Mate has a dozen or two with "gnome" in the package name

Post by Jeremy Ardley
On other O/S you could (can?) generate a 'packing list' of all the
components you wanted to install and use that to build your system. I
expect Debian 11 has that ability but it's not something that is
immediately obvious.
--
Jeremy
(Lists)

[Kent West]

I want to delete the Gnome desktop environment.
*What command is used for an elimination complete?*
I use this command but don't get the effect desired.
# apt-get install task-gnome-desktop

"install" won't remove. You want "remove" or "purge".


But don't even bother uninstalling it (unless you need the drive space);
just install a different DE of your preference, and then on your login
screen you can choose which DE to use. Install several DEs, and swap
between them whenever you feel like.

[Bret Busby]

I want to delete the Gnome desktop environment.
*What command is used for an elimination complete?*

as the superuser.


..
Bret Busby
Armadale
West Australia
(UTC+0800)
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[Bret Busby]

I want to delete the Gnome desktop environment.
*What command is used for an elimination complete?*

format c:

..
Bret Busby
Armadale
West Australia
(UTC+0800)
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[Bret Busby]

I want to delete the Gnome desktop environment.

Why?

What exactly do you want to achieve?

Those two questions should be answered, before you seek a solution,
which could otherwise do something that you do not want.

"
"So once you do know what the question actually is, you'll know what
the answer means."
- Deep Thought,
Chapter 28 of Book 1 of
"The Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy:
A Trilogy In Four Parts",
written by Douglas Adams,
published by Pan Books, 1992
"

..
Bret Busby
Armadale
West Australia
(UTC+0800)
..............