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memorysticky
2024-09-25 19:50:01 UTC
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Hello, I recently did a wipe and reinstalled Debian 12.
One issue I'm having is, I can no longer install gimp, it seems to be
missing from the repos.
Only thing I can find in the repos is gimp-help etc.

Please reply back.
thanks

Sincerely,
nicky
Joe
2024-09-25 20:00:01 UTC
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On Wed, 25 Sep 2024 19:26:07 +0000
Post by memorysticky
Hello, I recently did a wipe and reinstalled Debian 12.
One issue I'm having is, I can no longer install gimp, it seems to be
missing from the repos.
Only thing I can find in the repos is gimp-help etc.
Please reply back.
thanks
Exactly what did you do? I installed Debian 12 Xfce4 desktop version
six days ago, and Gimp was installed with it. I don't see any reports
about it in the last week.
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Joe
Xiyue Deng
2024-09-25 20:50:01 UTC
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Post by Joe
On Wed, 25 Sep 2024 19:26:07 +0000
Post by memorysticky
Hello, I recently did a wipe and reinstalled Debian 12.
One issue I'm having is, I can no longer install gimp, it seems to be
missing from the repos.
Only thing I can find in the repos is gimp-help etc.
Please reply back.
thanks
Exactly what did you do? I installed Debian 12 Xfce4 desktop version
six days ago, and Gimp was installed with it. I don't see any reports
about it in the last week.
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Joe
Gimp was removed from testing on 2024-09-25[1] due to the ongoing
transition. See [2] for more details.

I think you can enable sid (if only temporarily) and install it from
there.

[1] https://tracker.debian.org/news/1569365/gimp-removed-from-testing/
[2] https://tracker.debian.org/pkg/gimp
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Xiyue Deng
George at Clug
2024-09-25 21:10:01 UTC
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Hi,


Does anyone know who/how/why Gimp was removed from testing?


I found the links below, but to me they don't explain any valid
reasons or how this decision was made (automated or by human) ?


So curious how such a well known package becomes removed. And wonder
how it will be available when Stable is released.



https://tracker.debian.org/news/1569365/gimp-removed-from-testing/


https://tracker.debian.org/pkg/gimp-plugin-registry/news/
[2024-09-25] gimp-plugin-registry REMOVED from testing [1] (Debian
testing watch)



https://tracker.debian.org/pkg/gimp
The VCS repository is not up to date [2], push the missing
commits. high

lintian reports 1 error and 15 warnings [3] high

The package has not entered testing even though the delay is over
normal


https://udd.debian.org/lintian/?packages=gimp



gimp [4]
2.10.38-2

error
source-is-missing [5]
[devel-docs/libgimp/html/libgimp-gimppaths.html]








George.
Post by Joe
On Wed, 25 Sep 2024 19:26:07 +0000
Post by memorysticky
Hello, I recently did a wipe and reinstalled Debian 12.
One issue I'm having is, I can no longer install gimp, it seems to be
missing from the repos.
Only thing I can find in the repos is gimp-help etc.
Please reply back.
thanks
Exactly what did you do? I installed Debian 12 Xfce4 desktop version
six days ago, and Gimp was installed with it. I don't see any
reports
Post by Joe
about it in the last week.
--
Joe
Gimp was removed from testing on 2024-09-25[1] due to the ongoing
transition.  See [2] for more details.

I think you can enable sid (if only temporarily) and install it from
there.

[1] https://tracker.debian.org/news/1569365/gimp-removed-from-testing/
[2] https://tracker.debian.org/pkg/gimp
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Xiyue Deng



Links:
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[1]
https://tracker.debian.org/news/1569233/gimp-plugin-registry-removed-from-testing/
[2] https://qa.debian.org/cgi-bin/vcswatch?package=gimp
[3] https://udd.debian.org/lintian/?packages=gimp
[4] https://tracker.debian.org/gimp
[5] https://udd.debian.org/lintian-tag/source-is-missing
Xiyue Deng
2024-09-26 02:00:01 UTC
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Post by George at Clug
Hi,
Does anyone know who/how/why Gimp was removed from testing?
I found the links below, but to me they don't explain any valid
reasons or how this decision was made (automated or by human) ?
So curious how such a well known package becomes removed. And wonder
how it will be available when Stable is released.
In my previous mail I missed the fact that there was a serious bug
against Gimp (https://bugs.debian.org/1078402) which caused it to be
removed from testing. You can also see this from the "excuses" section
on its tracker page:

Issues preventing migration:
∙ ∙ Updating gimp would introduce bugs in testing: #1078402

I guess it takes some effort to backport the upstream fix because Gimp
has migrated to meson on HEAD but the 2.10.x branch is still using
autotools.
Post by George at Clug
https://tracker.debian.org/news/1569365/gimp-removed-from-testing/
https://tracker.debian.org/pkg/gimp-plugin-registry/news/
[2024-09-25] gimp-plugin-registry REMOVED from testing [1] (Debian
testing watch)
https://tracker.debian.org/pkg/gimp
The VCS repository is not up to date [2], push the missing
commits. high
lintian reports 1 error and 15 warnings [3] high
The package has not entered testing even though the delay is over
normal
https://udd.debian.org/lintian/?packages=gimp
gimp [4]
2.10.38-2
error
source-is-missing [5]
[devel-docs/libgimp/html/libgimp-gimppaths.html]
George.
Post by Joe
On Wed, 25 Sep 2024 19:26:07 +0000
Post by memorysticky
Hello, I recently did a wipe and reinstalled Debian 12.
One issue I'm having is, I can no longer install gimp, it seems to
be
Post by Joe
Post by memorysticky
missing from the repos.
Only thing I can find in the repos is gimp-help etc.
Please reply back.
thanks
Exactly what did you do? I installed Debian 12 Xfce4 desktop version
six days ago, and Gimp was installed with it. I don't see any
reports
Post by Joe
about it in the last week.
--
Joe
Gimp was removed from testing on 2024-09-25[1] due to the ongoing
transition.  See [2] for more details.
I think you can enable sid (if only temporarily) and install it from
there.
[1] https://tracker.debian.org/news/1569365/gimp-removed-from-testing/
[2] https://tracker.debian.org/pkg/gimp
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Xiyue Deng
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[1]
https://tracker.debian.org/news/1569233/gimp-plugin-registry-removed-from-testing/
[2] https://qa.debian.org/cgi-bin/vcswatch?package=gimp
[3] https://udd.debian.org/lintian/?packages=gimp
[4] https://tracker.debian.org/gimp
[5] https://udd.debian.org/lintian-tag/source-is-missing
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Xiyue Deng
Charles Curley
2024-09-25 21:50:02 UTC
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On Wed, 25 Sep 2024 13:41:52 -0700
Post by Xiyue Deng
Gimp was removed from testing on 2024-09-25[1] due to the ongoing
transition. See [2] for more details.
The original poster specified Debian 12, not testing. Wherefore the
following is dangerous advice.
Post by Xiyue Deng
I think you can enable sid (if only temporarily) and install it from
there.
[1] https://tracker.debian.org/news/1569365/gimp-removed-from-testing/
[2] https://tracker.debian.org/pkg/gimp
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Xiyue Deng
2024-09-25 23:00:02 UTC
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Post by Charles Curley
On Wed, 25 Sep 2024 13:41:52 -0700
Post by Xiyue Deng
Gimp was removed from testing on 2024-09-25[1] due to the ongoing
transition. See [2] for more details.
The original poster specified Debian 12, not testing. Wherefore the
following is dangerous advice.
Thanks for pointing this out! Yes, one should definitely avoid making a
FrankenDebian.

OTOH, let's wait for OP to clarify what OP has installed in your other
mail.
Post by Charles Curley
Post by Xiyue Deng
I think you can enable sid (if only temporarily) and install it from
there.
[1] https://tracker.debian.org/news/1569365/gimp-removed-from-testing/
[2] https://tracker.debian.org/pkg/gimp
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Charles Curley
2024-09-25 21:50:01 UTC
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On Wed, 25 Sep 2024 19:26:07 +0000
Post by memorysticky
Hello, I recently did a wipe and reinstalled Debian 12.
One issue I'm having is, I can no longer install gimp, it seems to be
missing from the repos.
Only thing I can find in the repos is gimp-help etc.
Curiouser and curiouser.

***@issola:/# apt-cache search gimp | sort | grep -E '^gimp '
gimp - GNU Image Manipulation Program
***@issola:/#

So it's definitely there. Which leads me to wonder: have you done an
"apt update" lately?

I also wonder what your /etc/apt/sources.list looks like. Mine (beware
of wrapping):

***@issola:/# cat /etc/apt/sources.list
#deb cdrom:[Debian GNU/Linux 12.2.0 _Bookworm_ - Official amd64 NETINST with firmware 20231007-10:28]/ bookworm main non-free-firmware

deb http://deb.debian.org/debian bookworm main contrib non-free non-free-firmware
# deb-src http://deb.debian.org/debian bookworm main contrib non-free non-free-firmware

deb http://security.debian.org/debian-security bookworm-security main contrib non-free non-free-firmware
# deb-src http://security.debian.org/debian-security bookworm-security main contrib non-free non-free-firmware

# bookworm-updates, to get updates before a point release is made;
# see https://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/debian-reference/ch02.en.html#_updates_and_backports
deb http://deb.debian.org/debian bookworm-updates main contrib non-free non-free-firmware
# deb-src http://deb.debian.org/debian bookworm-updates main contrib non-free non-free-firmware

# This system was installed using small removable media
# (e.g. netinst, live or single CD). The matching "deb cdrom"
# entries were disabled at the end of the installation process.
# For information about how to configure apt package sources,
# see the sources.list(5) manual.
***@issola:/#
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Mindaugas
2024-09-26 12:10:01 UTC
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Hello. You can always install gimp from flatpak. No need to play with
sid repos...
Hello, I recently did a wipe and reinstalled Debian 12.
One issue I'm having is, I can no longer install gimp, it seems to be
missing from the repos.
Only thing I can find in the repos is gimp-help etc.
Please reply back.
thanks
Sincerely,
nicky
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